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Photo ID # G02.10.10_009_SCH_VIN_0063S_1
Car #: #9 and #88
Driver (s) : Jimmy Diaz and Alan Carter
Location: Vineland and (unknown)
Date: 1963
Photographer: William Curley
Photo provided by: Russ Dodge
Comments: Senior Moment From Russ Dodge:

Losing It's Independents

Once again the 3wide message board put me in a senior moment. A recent discussion on a Corvette suspension being used in the seventies, I believe, took me back to my memory of Jimmy Diaz's car at Vineland Speedway. The photo shows the number 9 car as it appeared on October 6, 1963, driven by Herby Schoch.

A little background on the owner will help explain the "creation"! Diaz and his brother ran a body shop in Williamstown, N.J. that specialized in foreign car body work and restoration. They were "off the charts" in ability to form sheet metal and use of the English wheel. Using his understanding of sports car racing and construction, Jimmy proceeded to build a car on the technology he thought would work. I believe he had never actually been to a stock car race. Herby once told me he had to persuade Jimmy to make the roof height that it finally was, much higher than Jimmy envisioned. The end result was a car using basically a Corvette chassis with a tilt off aluminum body.

You can imagine the "Buzz" it created in the grandstand when it appeared on the track for warm-ups and the louder commotion it caused in the pits when it arrived earlier. Before it was unloaded the protests and complaints began. However, the race officials decided to allow the car to run. This decision was greatly influenced I surmised years later, when I found out how friendly Herby was with promoter Bill Nocco and that Diaz had been instrumental in getting the sports car facility built at Vineland a few years before.

Herby and the 9 car never materialized into too much of a threat! I really think the officials knew Herby's limited experience would keep the car in "check" when they made the decision to allow it to run. The car ran 1963 race and several races in 1964 registering an 9th place as its best finish.

Herby told me when they brought the car in for the first show several drivers wanted to take it out. He said one young guy came down and inquired about trying it out and Herby said, "I blew him off and said I was driving it! I didn't know at the time it was Wally Dallenbach! Can you imagine not giving him a chance to test it out?" Herby's evaluation of the car was it went and stuck anywhere you wanted to go.

The team took the car to Wall Stadium to race and the officials just laughed at them and told them to take it home!

In the mid-1990's discussions with Herby Shoch about the car usually ended with "Whatever happened to the 9 car?" To which Herby was curious but couldn't recall.

Advance now to one of Bob Miller's Reading Reunions and an introduction to Alan Carter, son of Rags Carter. CRS prevents me from overloading you with details but in essence I do remember Alan starting a driving career in sportsman I believe at Nazareth. The car he used was one he purchased from car owner Walt Donald. Alan had work around Kinsley Enterprises for Walt in his late teens and recalled working off the cost of the car for payment. You guessed it. It was the Diaz #9 car that somehow ended up at Walt Donald's as a result of some type of deal to which the details will never be known.

Alan was helpful in solving the mystery he sent us a copy of his only photo of his car, which was painted dark blue and numbered 88. There is no question about it when you compare the photos. However the independent front end had been replaced with a standard straight axle.

Senior Moment By; Russ Dodge

 

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03.04.10 Alan Carter Jr. I bought the car from Walt for $700. I worked for Walt when he had his race horse business and he was married to Sandy, who had been married to Jackie McLaughlin. When I moved back to Pa. with my father I took it with me.

I ran the car at Reading about 6 times still with the independent suspension. I also took it to Nazareth but they wouldn't let me run because it was so unusual looking. It had a quick change with corvette axles and suspension. I  wrecked it at Reading that's when I put a straight axle front end on but left the rear alone.

My dad took it out at Reading and could not believe how well it handled. That winter I put a Chevy coupe body which was off of the Meals 44 that they had discarded. But I got drafted and went to Vietnam and never raced it again. I have a picture of it somewhere with the new body I'll have to send you.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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