Photo ID # | N02.08.17_021_BUT_UNK_0072F_1 |
Car #: | #21 |
Driver (s) : | Driver Oliver Butler (L) and Car Owner Fred Menschner (R) |
Location: | Not sure... |
Date: | 1973 |
Photographer: | Unknown |
Photo provided by: | Fred Menschner |
Comments: | Comment from Fred: Joe - Photo taken by one of our fans. I think this is Flemington. Notice the car is loaded backwards on the trailer. One of the only times we crashed it. Ollie was 37 or 38 yrs old and I was 25yrs. I think we loaded it that way so I could repair the front end damage on the trailer. By the look on Ollie's face, he was not happy. |
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02.08.17 | 3Wide | Is that a can of beer next to you Fred? You don't look old enough to drink in this picture! Pretty cool to think that as a car owner, you were competing against many owners that were twice your age. With drivers like Ray Neary and Oliver Butler, they definitely knew you were there, winning features at Harmony, Flemington (maybe East Windsor too?) ...and that #21 coupe had plenty of attitude... Looked fast sitting still. |
02.09.17 | Fred Menschner | Joe, about the beer, that's how we stayed Soo thin, we did not have time to eat. Remember what Wally Marks always said: "Thirty five dollars for parts, and thirty five cents for soup." |
02.09.17 | 3-Wide | Fred - What year were you "officially" listed as an owner? 1970 with Ray Neary, or before that? Not sure if you and Ray were in partners on the early #21's or not. |
02.09.17 | Fred Menschner |
I got with Ray in 1965 and we became race car partners in 1967. This is when I returned from army basic training and we had the Tas/Piscopo car. Our garage was in Chambersburg section of Trenton. |
02.11.17 | Ollie Butler |
Fred, |
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